From tkkeyes
Posted 5/8/2010 11:13:15 PM
I believe an important message wasn't stressed as much as it could've been during the run-up to obamacare. Plenty of opposition voices spent alot of time making the case that the gap between passing it (tax increases to begin immediately) and delaying it going into effect in 2014 was just a smoke & mirrors accounting gimmick necessary to come up w/ CBO numbers that obama could peddle to the public. True enough. But I don't believe that's the only reason for the time lapse. IMO the progressives, knowing full-well ...and by design!... that the vast majority of employers, left w/ no other option but to drop health care leaving millions of very pissed-off voters out there w/ no coverage, knew from the start that they needed to give themselves enough time to let "dissociation" set in, giving them enough wiggle room to spin their way out of it. As God as my witness, I can already hear them just simply blaming all those "evil corporations" who so callously threw all those hard-working families out into the street and oh, by the way, the American people should be thankful the democrats had the foresight to make sure they had somewhere else to go! Too many times over the years, I've found myself nauseous to the point of being physically ill, watching (like a bad accident happening in slow-motion) them "shuckin' & groovin" their way out of trouble. I feel it's imperitve that ALL of us take EVERY opportunity in the weeks & months to come, to make sure all Americans keep understanding exactly what's going to happen ...AND WHO'S REALLY TO BLAME!!! I'm not saying this point wasn't made. I just feel it could've been given more attention then & it certainly isn't being shouted out as loud and as often as it needs to be from here forward. It's not enough for us to keep discussing it w/ ourselves, we're not the ones who need to be reminded of it every day because none of us will EVER forget. So, we need to make certain the rest of America, outside of our movement, NEVER forgets either.
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Pine County, Minnesota Tea Party at Lakeview Country Club, 10762 Lakeview Shore Drive, Pine City, Mn 55063. Events start at noon and run til 4 PM. We plan on inviting all candidates for US House Congressional District 8, Candidates for Mn District 8 Senate race and candidates for Mn House District 8b. We hope this message reaches all concerned voters in this area.
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The Obama regime are at it again, lying to the people in an attempt to make political points before the election.They are on the news and putting ads on TV claiming that GM has paid back their loan in full with interest in just one year instead of five as planned but is a lie. They payed their first loan alright but they didn't do it from profits, they paid it back with a second loan so they in fact still owe the same amount. The truth of this was on Neil Cavutto show today and we are still stuck with the bill. They only paid back the first loan part 8 billion, the 53 billion of our tax dollars Obama used to buy out the company is also still in GMs greedy little hands. Let the media know and the Obama regime know that are smarter than they think we are and that we know the truth. We need to let everyone know that this is a lie because Obama is going to try to use these ads to convince people his plan is working.
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Question how many folks plan on going to Washington DC on April 19th (Patriots Day) to be part of the 2nd Adm Walk. I will be attending and I encourage as many of my fellow Americans to try to attend.
http://www.secondamendmentmarch.com/
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How do we keep Hilary Clinton from destoying our rights to bear arms? She is using the UN to go around our constitution. We have stop the Pelosi's, Clinton's, and Reid's and get them out of power before we lose it all. We have to many illegal's in this country that are taking American jobs we have to many forigen workers that are taking our jobs, and we are allowing to much of our work to go out of this country, and then shipped back in to be sold to us.
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We need to advertise !
All Tea Party groups should pool money and BUY ADD's in local papers and make BILL BOARDS so people in town KNOW they have a TEA PARTY in there town.
MASS BUMPER STICKERS !!!!!!!!!! ON EVERY CAR
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ABOVE ALL ELSE, we must remember that we are the decent, law abiding Americans. We must never do anything to disgrace ourselves or our cause in any event we take part in. We must never start any violence or take part in any destruction or private or public property. We must never leave trash on any site we rally and we must be courteous to the police officers under whose juristictions we meet and follow their orders. We must never be obscene. If we are accosted by hecklers we should remain silent and ignore them. We must never return violence for violence unless our life is threatened and then we should seek police help first if possible. The socialists already have a long track record for sleazy, violent behavior. We are not like them. We are the true patriots on whom our nation depends to continue the American dream. Our grandchildren are counting on us to leave a better future. God bless America. Pete Peterson.
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From jbduron
Posted 3/15/2010 3:53:38 PM
As a Veteran I enlisted to protect Democracy, not to stand by and watch the elected "Spend and Tax more" SOCIALIST, KOOL-AID DRINKING ZOMBIES destroy my COUNTRY!
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From copmom
Posted 3/13/2010 1:50:55 AM
The "band-aids" aren't working anymore. A lot of us are just going to have to take some hits and suck it up. The gravy train is over and we have to get our politicians to be honest,face their people and stop the bleeding by stopping the spending!
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EVERYONE - PLEASE - USE THIS BULLETIN I'M POSTING HERE : SPREAD THE WORDS OF TRUTH!
THE TIME FOR SOFT LANGUAGE IS OVER!!!! THE TIME TO WAKE UP IS NOW!!!
STAND UP & TELL OBAMA TO GO SCREW HIMSELF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He is SWEEPING SENIOR CITIZENS under the rug -
RUNNING RIGHT OVER THE ELDERLY WHO CAN'T BARELY DEFEND THEMSELVES -
ALL TO MAKE HIMSELF LOOK GOOD IN THE HISTORY BOOKS!!!!!!!
He's going to TAX OUR LIVES by FORCING us to purchase health insurance - WHETHER WE WANT OR NEED IT!!!!!!
And in the process - HE'S GOING TO DESTROY - American Senior Citizens Benefits.... to pass a LACKLUSTER & LOW-BENEFIT government health program!
BUT WHY???
WHY IS OBAMA SAYING TO HELL WITH SENIOR CITIZENS - & - WHY IS OBAMA TAXING OUR LIVES WITH A MANDATORY MONTHLY HEALTH BILL?????
I'LL TELL YOU WHY :
HE WANTS TO BE REELECTED!!!!!!
HE DOES NOT CARE ABOUT YOU OR ME....NO MATTER CLASS, AGE, GENDER... HE ONLY CARES ABOUT HIS POLITICAL AGENDA & HIS IMAGE!!!!!!!!!
BUT WHY? WHY IS HE SO SELFISH???
BECAUSE HIS PRESIDENCY HAS BEEN A FLOP - ON EVERYTHING EXCEPT DIPLOMATIC RELATIONS - THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION HAS BEEN AS MUCH OF A FAILURE : AS THAT OF OUR FORMER PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH'S PRESIDENCY WAS!!!!!
IF HE DOES NOT PASS THIS SHITNIFICENT "OBAMACARE" OF HIS... HE WILL NOT WIN THE SUPORT OR BACKING OF HIS OWN PARTY... HE WILL NOT HAVE ANY BACKERS FOR HIS CAMPAIGN FOR REELECTION :
AND HE WILL LOSE THE PRESIDENCY TO A LEADER MORE COMPETENT THAN HIMSELF!!!!
This is why EVERY POLITICAL PARTY - EVEN A LARGE PORTION OF HIS VERY OWN PARTY - Had the OVERALL - UNANIMOUS consensus that Obama - DOES NOT HAVE ENOUGH EXPERIENCE TO BE A CONSTRUCTIVE & EFFECTIVE LEADER!!!!
AMERICA : IT'S TIME TO TELL THIS BASTARD THAT THE HOPE HE OFFERED WAS NOTHING MORE THAN A FAIRY TALE TO BUY AN ELECTION!
AMERICA : IT'S TIME TO TELL THIS BASTARD THAT CHANGE THAT NOBODY WANTS, CAN AFFORD OR THAT'S COMPLETELY UNNECESSARY - IS BULLSHIT!!!!
AMERICA : IT IS TIME TO TELL THIS SORRY SACK OF CRAP THAT WE WILL NOT BE RUN OVER BY BIG GOVERNMENT ALL FOR HIS POLITICAL GAIN!!!!
AMERICA :
STAND UP TO OBAMA RUINING OUR GREAT NATION, HARMING OUR SENIORS, MAKING LIFE MORE EXPENSIVE FOR FAMILIES, BAILING OUT HUGE AUTOMAKERS BUT OVERLOOKING US!!!!!!!!
AMERICA :
STAND UP TO OBAMA & HIS LIES!
ALL AMERICA NEEDS IS A SIMPLE LAW PASSED THAT MAKES IT ILLEGAL TO DENY MEDICAL INSURANCE TO PEOPLE WITH PREEXISTING MEDICAL CONDITIONS!!!!!!!!!
WE DON'T NEED CHANGE THAT PUTS US IN HARMS WAY!
OBAMA - STOP SPENDING MONEY WE DON'T HAVE!!!!!!!!
OBAMA - CREATE JOBS - NOT DEBT!!!!
AMERICA :
TELL THIS BASTARD - HELL NO OBAMA :
HELL NO!!!!!!
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EVERYONE - PLEASE - USE THIS BULLETIN I'M POSTING HERE : SPREAD THE WORDS OF TRUTH!
THE TIME FOR SOFT LANGUAGE IS OVER!!!! THE TIME TO WAKE UP IS NOW!!!
STAND UP & TELL OBAMA TO GO SCREW HIMSELF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He is SWEEPING SENIOR CITIZENS under the rug -
RUNNING RIGHT OVER THE ELDERLY WHO CAN'T BARELY DEFEND THEMSELVES -
ALL TO MAKE HIMSELF LOOK GOOD IN THE HISTORY BOOKS!!!!!!!
He's going to TAX OUR LIVES by FORCING us to purchase health insurance - WHETHER WE WANT OR NEED IT!!!!!!
And in the process - HE'S GOING TO DESTROY - American Senior Citizens Benefits.... to pass a LACKLUSTER & LOW-BENEFIT government health program!
BUT WHY???
WHY IS OBAMA SAYING TO HELL WITH SENIOR CITIZENS - & - WHY IS OBAMA TAXING OUR LIVES WITH A MANDATORY MONTHLY HEALTH BILL?????
I'LL TELL YOU WHY :
HE WANTS TO BE REELECTED!!!!!!
HE DOES NOT CARE ABOUT YOU OR ME....NO MATTER CLASS, AGE, GENDER... HE ONLY CARES ABOUT HIS POLITICAL AGENDA & HIS IMAGE!!!!!!!!!
BUT WHY? WHY IS HE SO SELFISH???
BECAUSE HIS PRESIDENCY HAS BEEN A FLOP - ON EVERYTHING EXCEPT DIPLOMATIC RELATIONS - THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION HAS BEEN AS MUCH OF A FAILURE : AS THAT OF OUR FORMER PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH'S PRESIDENCY WAS!!!!!
IF HE DOES NOT PASS THIS SHITNIFICENT "OBAMACARE" OF HIS... HE WILL NOT WIN THE SUPORT OR BACKING OF HIS OWN PARTY... HE WILL NOT HAVE ANY BACKERS FOR HIS CAMPAIGN FOR REELECTION :
AND HE WILL LOSE THE PRESIDENCY TO A LEADER MORE COMPETENT THAN HIMSELF!!!!
This is why EVERY POLITICAL PARTY - EVEN A LARGE PORTION OF HIS VERY OWN PARTY - Had the OVERALL - UNANIMOUS consensus that Obama - DOES NOT HAVE ENOUGH EXPERIENCE TO BE A CONSTRUCTIVE & EFFECTIVE LEADER!!!!
AMERICA : IT'S TIME TO TELL THIS BASTARD THAT THE HOPE HE OFFERED WAS NOTHING MORE THAN A FAIRY TALE TO BUY AN ELECTION!
AMERICA : IT'S TIME TO TELL THIS BASTARD THAT CHANGE THAT NOBODY WANTS, CAN AFFORD OR THAT'S COMPLETELY UNNECESSARY - IS BULLSHIT!!!!
AMERICA : IT IS TIME TO TELL THIS SORRY SACK OF CRAP THAT WE WILL NOT BE RUN OVER BY BIG GOVERNMENT ALL FOR HIS POLITICAL GAIN!!!!
AMERICA :
STAND UP TO OBAMA RUINING OUR GREAT NATION, HARMING OUR SENIORS, MAKING LIFE MORE EXPENSIVE FOR FAMILIES, BAILING OUT HUGE AUTOMAKERS BUT OVERLOOKING US!!!!!!!!
AMERICA :
STAND UP TO OBAMA & HIS LIES!
ALL AMERICA NEEDS IS A SIMPLE LAW PASSED THAT MAKES IT ILLEGAL TO DENY MEDICAL INSURANCE TO PEOPLE WITH PREEXISTING MEDICAL CONDITIONS!!!!!!!!!
WE DON'T NEED CHANGE THAT PUTS US IN HARMS WAY!
OBAMA - STOP SPENDING MONEY WE DON'T HAVE!!!!!!!!
OBAMA - CREATE JOBS - NOT DEBT!!!!
AMERICA :
TELL THIS BASTARD - HELL NO OBAMA :
HELL NO!!!!!!
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From kathjw
Posted 3/9/2010 5:32:37 PM
I have a tea party group here in Ponca City,OK. I hope and pray that all small groups around the country can have a surge in partiots joining. Because there are so many people that watch the main stream media I am absolutely amazed at how many people have not idea what the tea party movement is.
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From kathjw
Posted 3/9/2010 5:32:19 PM
I have a tea party group here in Ponca City,OK. I hope and pray that all small groups around the country can have a surge in partiots joining. Because there are so many people that watch the main stream media I am absolutely amazed at how many people have not idea what the tea party movement is.
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From kathjw
Posted 3/9/2010 5:29:59 PM
I have a tea party group here in Ponca City, OK. On your calendar for 2010 in April and May you spoke of training. Will that be on the web site or how do I participate?
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AnneCoulter.. Seems like the Tea Party Supporters are drawing more press than the messiah himself…….. I can’t recall such a nose-dive in politics. What was it now….a little over five months in office and his poll numbers were the lowest on record ………!Who's borrowing who's photos??
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The principles of the tea party movement is, Taxed Enough Already. One of the biggest wasteful spenders are all government funded enterprises. By years end they have to spend all excess revenue or lose it for the next years budget. How about rewarding thrift, as in a bonus paid to government offices that are under budget, that would be paid out at a small percentage of what was saved or not used. The surplus saved in case of circumstances requiring that same office to need more funds the following year. While I was in the armed forces, these practices were employed, and waste became rampant in order to preserve the previous years income invested. That was 30 years ago and they (government employees) are still doing it today. How much would that save us as tax payers?
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Why does this site use bogus photos off Teabagger event in washington. You wish you could attract as many people as Obama
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Why does this site use bogus photos off Teabagger event in washington. You wish you could attract as many people as Obama
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From Manelion
Posted 2/23/2010 12:29:22 PM
Limbaugh's making excuses for Palin Supporting McCain . Now Romney 's supporting McCain. This looks like NEO-RINOISM . Time for Tea Party Rebels to Primary Fight The Republican Party 2010 Elections.
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From Manelion
Posted 2/23/2010 9:13:23 AM
Scott Brown voted to advance the New "Stimulus Bill " . Tea Party Rebels need to hold this opportunist's feet to the fire. This guy's vote looks like Olympia Snowe In Pants.
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From UnderGod
Posted 2/22/2010 8:47:58 PM
DO I HEAR BECK FOR PRESIDENT!!1!
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NO BULL JOIN ME AT THE EMERALD CAFE MEETUP FOR GLENN BECK AND FOR THE TEA PARTY WE ARE OUTFITTING SMALL BUSINESSES ACROSS AMERICA WITH THE IDEA OF FILL'EM UP-- AIR-- FOR THEIR TIRES WITH THE TEA PARTY- OTHERS TALK IT, WE DO IT. JOIN US FOR SAVING FUEL AND MILEAGE FOR AMERICA POSTING GLENN BECK FOR PRESIDENT. ONE SMALL COMPRESSOR AND A TEA PARTY SIGN FILL EM UP FOR A DOLLAR AND SAVE OR ECONOMY.
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From miltonmd
Posted 2/21/2010 4:59:25 PM
how to you post here? do you guys have threads. I don't like tweet or facebook. Just plain open discussion Is this possible? what is no html allowed?
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Okay, don’t laugh….new to computers and need some help. How is it you post an article on this website?? The ones that are on the site are somewhat old and I thought I would engage but not quite sure how. Anyone with any info……….please respond. Thanks
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From RichardT
Posted 2/21/2010 10:26:45 AM
I believe one of the articles of the Contract From America should be the implementation of the provisions of the War Powers Act, a law that is already on the books. This provides that any time the President sends troops to an active engagement overseas, Congress must approve and authorize it, and must re-authorize it every 6 months.
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From RichardT
Posted 2/21/2010 10:16:35 AM
I believe one of the articles of the Contract From America should be the implementation of the provisions of the War Powers Act, a law that is already on the books. This provides that any time the President sends troops to an active engagement overseas, Congress must approve and authorize it, and must re-authorize it every 6 months.
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From Sukaza
Posted 2/20/2010 10:20:13 PM
I am a 17 year old who has given my full support to the Tea Party patriots. I attended the March on DC last year in September and I am looking forward to it again this year. If I can help in any way I will try so keep up the good work!
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From sml
Posted 2/20/2010 5:57:50 AM
where to find signs for my business
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I held a TEA Party at my house last year on April 15,(and other days) and my niece and I attended and helped "Shut Down DC" on 912 last year and anxiously look forward to this years. Nothing will keep me away!! GO PATRIOTS!!!!!
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Tomorrow is the Big Day in CA: the 'Invisible' Tea Party
Tomorrow's Tea Party will only be visible to the folks who happen to be at the county Registrar's office in your local county. Yes, tomorrow, Tues. Feb 16, 2010 is the day the tea party rebellion begins in earnest in CA.
All across the state of CA, people like you will be appearing before the clerks at the registrar's office filing for a seat on your local Central Committee. You will be placing your feet on the path toward becoming the most powerful official in US politics.
Please be sure to visit http://precincts.ning.com and post a blog entry (every member has their own blog there which appears on the site's opening page) about your experience at the county registrar's office. Since there will probably be a line at the registrar's office, blog about your experience chatting with people (other candidates) in line with you! (We'd love for you to blog at nationalprecinctalliance.org however the blogging resources are not up and running there yet, so we invite you to blog at the CA specific site instead: http://precincts.ning.com).
Please share what you learn at the clerk's office! We need to hear about your victories, as well as any obstacles you may have encountered. What you learn in your county will go a LONG WAY toward helping folks in other counties, so be sure to post about your experiences.
Finally, be sure to have a few dollars in your pocket to purchase 'street indexes' of your area when you file and pick up your petitions. These 'street indexes serve two purposes: first, they lead you directly to the households of party members who can sign your petition. Second. they are a copy of the voter's individual voter registration - be sure that they sign with the same name and street address on the street index or the signature could get tossed and you will have to get more signatures to replace them.
Remember, the clerks use 'statistical methods' to check petition signature forms - if they identify only 2 or 3 invalid signatures on a given petition form, the entire petition form gets tossed out. Be accurate! To be safe, be sure to get 40 signatures, not the minimum 20 signatures.
Good luck, and here's to taking over the country, one precinct at a time!
Ron Robinson
CA Chair
National Precinct Alliance
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From MBarnes
Posted 2/13/2010 2:30:42 PM
How can I get a list of local events, places and times? BadPuppy99HD@aol.com Mark Barnes
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Anyting can be prohibited. That, of course, doesn't mean that they don't continue to exist. "To Big to Fail" seems to be the perfect example of a 'Perfect' monopoly. A company or corporation, offering a paricular product or service, is faltering, failing and about to go bankrupt. There is a loud hue and cry, "No, we cannot let it fail, they are needed far too much, effecting too much, jobs, investments, etc. There isn't anyone else doing their work. Bail them out!" Couldn't, shouldn't this type of entity qualify as a monopoly? Have they actually garnered 100% of market share? That in itself would seem to be a definition of monopoly. No competition ready to step in? Take charge and show it can do the same product or service more efficiently, i.e. cheaper? What happened to 'competition' in the field? It would seem that at least one of the items corporations have bounght in Washington is having D.C. simply not enforce anti-monopoly law, allowing them to simply go ahead with their monopoly practices regardless and with impunity. Is this reasoning, reasonable? to those students/scholars posting here on this subject?
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You all need to read this and get behind it. it is our best hope. http://www.thenation.com/doc/20100222/lessig
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From Manelion
Posted 2/12/2010 1:41:26 PM
The laws of the United States hold that a legal entity (like a corporation or non-profit organization) shall be treated under the law as a person except when otherwise noted. This rule of construction is specified in 1 U.S.C. §1, which states:
In determining the meaning of any Act of Congress, unless the context indicates otherwise-- the words "person" and "whoever" include corporations, companies, associations, firms, partnerships, societies, and joint stock companies, as well as individuals;
This federal statute has many consequences. For example, a corporation is allowed to own property and enter contracts. It can also be sued and held liable under both civil and criminal law.
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Because I find economics absolutely fascinating (strange?)I'm envious of you in your position, Mimor. Although I read much, I'm lacking in the experience. Concepts of Free Trade, division of labor, proper use of a 'medium of exchange' and the ability (I think) of Free Market Trade to balance itself if left alone and distribute wealth all while using resources most wisely and efficiently, is, to say the least, most interesting. Hope you'll post more on economics when the time arises.
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From Mimor
Posted 2/12/2010 12:58:52 PM
I've actively participated in major markets, domestic and international, for some time and have a pretty good idea about how the market functions. Some points to consider:
Monopolies are now generally prohibited, except for monopolies of labor (labor unions).
Corporations are not inherantly evil. Being large does not make any corporation evil. Only very large corporations can economically perform many key economic functions, like exploring for and producing energy, autos, airplanes, pharmaceuticals, etc.
Corporations and unions that get political favors, like price supports, quotas, tariffs, legal barriers to new competitors, lucrative contracts because they supported a political candidate or party,etc are indeed a problem. Political favors and punishments must be eliminated.
Prices are set by the markets, unless there is government interference. This includes the price of everything from toothpicks, gasoline, crude oil, airline tickets. No company, large or small, has the capability to dictate prices. Supply and demand really do work - unless the government screws the system up. Gasoline prices didn't rise in 2008 because of greedy oil companies. They rose - and then fell, strictly because of the global free market. In the USA, discussion of or setting prices between competitors is strictly prohibited and in fact works. In many foreign countries, this is not as strict.
Corporations are indeed not people but they are subject to a lot of distress by unions. Unions, like the SEIU, gave Obama over $60million to get elected. Until unions are banned from that kind of political activity, corporations and all individuals must be allowed the same right. If you don't want corporations to support political candidates, you better shut off the huge flow of union cash that has so contaminated the electoral process.
Tea Party activists need to work to keep the government out of business, not to try to regulate business. The EPA is one agency that should be severly restricted and brought under Congressional control, not left to the whim of the President.
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From Mimor
Posted 2/12/2010 12:58:38 PM
I've actively participated in major markets, domestic and international, for some time and have a pretty good idea about how the market functions. Some points to consider:
Monopolies are now generally prohibited, except for monopolies of labor (labor unions).
Corporations are not inherantly evil. Being large does not make any corporation evil. Only very large corporations can economically perform many key economic functions, like exploring for and producing energy, autos, airplanes, pharmaceuticals, etc.
Corporations and unions that get political favors, like price supports, quotas, tariffs, legal barriers to new competitors, lucrative contracts because they supported a political candidate or party,etc are indeed a problem. Political favors and punishments must be eliminated.
Prices are set by the markets, unless there is government interference. This includes the price of everything from toothpicks, gasoline, crude oil, airline tickets. No company, large or small, has the capability to dictate prices. Supply and demand really do work - unless the government screws the system up. Gasoline prices didn't rise in 2008 because of greedy oil companies. They rose - and then fell, strictly because of the global free market. In the USA, discussion of or setting prices between competitors is strictly prohibited and in fact works. In many foreign countries, this is not as strict.
Corporations are indeed not people but they are subject to a lot of distress by unions. Unions, like the SEIU, gave Obama over $60million to get elected. Until unions are banned from that kind of political activity, corporations and all individuals must be allowed the same right. If you don't want corporations to support political candidates, you better shut off the huge flow of union cash that has so contaminated the electoral process.
Tea Party activists need to work to keep the government out of business, not to try to regulate business. The EPA is one agency that should be severly restricted and brought under Congressional control, not left to the whim of the President.
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From Mimor
Posted 2/12/2010 12:58:21 PM
I've actively participated in major markets, domestic and international, for some time and have a pretty good idea about how the market functions. Some points to consider:
Monopolies are now generally prohibited, except for monopolies of labor (labor unions).
Corporations are not inherantly evil. Being large does not make any corporation evil. Only very large corporations can economically perform many key economic functions, like exploring for and producing energy, autos, airplanes, pharmaceuticals, etc.
Corporations and unions that get political favors, like price supports, quotas, tariffs, legal barriers to new competitors, lucrative contracts because they supported a political candidate or party,etc are indeed a problem. Political favors and punishments must be eliminated.
Prices are set by the markets, unless there is government interference. This includes the price of everything from toothpicks, gasoline, crude oil, airline tickets. No company, large or small, has the capability to dictate prices. Supply and demand really do work - unless the government screws the system up. Gasoline prices didn't rise in 2008 because of greedy oil companies. They rose - and then fell, strictly because of the global free market. In the USA, discussion of or setting prices between competitors is strictly prohibited and in fact works. In many foreign countries, this is not as strict.
Corporations are indeed not people but they are subject to a lot of distress by unions. Unions, like the SEIU, gave Obama over $60million to get elected. Until unions are banned from that kind of political activity, corporations and all individuals must be allowed the same right. If you don't want corporations to support political candidates, you better shut off the huge flow of union cash that has so contaminated the electoral process.
Tea Party activists need to work to keep the government out of business, not to try to regulate business. The EPA is one agency that should be severly restricted and brought under Congressional control, not left to the whim of the President.
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From Mimor
Posted 2/12/2010 12:53:14 PM
I've actively participated in major markets, domestic and international, for some time and have a pretty good idea about how the market functions. Some points to consider:
Monopolies are now generally prohibited, except for monopolies of labor (labor unions).
Corporations are not inherantly evil. Being large does not make any corporation evil. Only large corporations can economically perform key economic functions, like exploring for and producing energy, autos, airplanes, pharmaceuticals, etc.
Corporations and unions that get political favors, like price supports, quotas, tariffs, legal barriers to new competitors, lucrative contracts because they supported a political candidate or party,etc are indeed a problem. This must be controlled and then eliminated.
Prices are set by the markets, unless there is government interference. This includes the price of everything from toothpicks, gasoline, crude oil. No company, large or small, has the capability to dictate prices. Supply and demand really do work - unless the government screws the system up. Gasoline prices didn't rise in 2008 because of greedy oil companies. They rose - and then fell, strictly because of the global free market. In the USA, price discussion or setting between competitors is strictly prohibited and in fact occurs. In many foreign countries, this is not as strict.
Corporations are indeed not people but they are subject to a lot of distress by unions. Unless unions, like the SEIU that gave Obama over $60million to get elected, are banned from that kind of political activity, corporations and all individuals must be allowed the same right. If you don't want corporations to support political candidates, you better shut off the huge flow of union cash that has so contaminated the electoral process.
Tea Party activists need to work to keep the government out of business, not to try to regulate business.
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DaveBfree: Corporations, certainly, should never be treated like individuals, only the economic entities they are. The whole concept of FREE TRADE has nothing to do with government. Strictly human societal phenomena.
I think (and I'm no expert) that the Concept of Free Market Trade has certain built in PRINCIPLES of smooth operation rather than rules as such. If the 'principles' are followed then Free Market Trade would always tend to balance itself. The RULES (laws) would be instituted to PREVENT the creation of mega-monopolies, price fixing, discouraging or totally eliminating of innovative competition, making large campaign contribution to congresspeople in exchange for favorable regulations giving 'special privilege and advantage to certain corporation over others, bribery to gain special economic advantage. All of these are devastating to the smooth and correct functioning of the 'FREE MARKET'. As soon as our Republic was founded, and as the Industrial Revolution' was getting underway, greedy people began doing their level best to circumvent the Principles of Free Market Trade to get economic advantage for themselves. Much worse today as they gain more and growing overall control of our government and of us.
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I think we Tea Party Patriots could gain a lot more supporters if we realized the Constitution did not give human rights to big corporations. Also "free" trade is not in the Constitution, what IS in the Constitution are clear controls on unrestricted free trade. The rights of big corporations are in direct conflict with the interests of We the People.
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There is a listing on this websites homepage of all Tea Party local community groups. Scroll down homepage past 'Contract from America' and you should find them. Click on your local for specifics.
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I found out about the tea party in Naples Florida on Saturday after the fact. How do I find out about a tea party before hand? Help Please!
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From Jank
Posted 2/10/2010 3:48:46 PM
How do you think the Beck 8/28 Rally in DC will affect the 9/12 March? Why do we seem to have a problem with working with other Conservative groups to unify & grow. Most people will not be able to attend both events unless they live nearby. Why not try to join forces. If you don't want to join Beck, then why not have the march to day after his rally?
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